robotechreboot asked:

I'm happy that they added something like an artillery cruiser to the ships of the Robotech universe, especially in that era - but I agree that the extraneous fins are distracting, and serve no apparent purpose (and keep the unfortunate garden-weasel-esque design theme going). The stealth recon ship is, again, a nice addition - but the design also worries me. It reminds me entirely too much of the cheap go-bot toys where there was almost no art to it.

The Takeru and the earlier ship both somehow come off as both unfinished and overdone. Both designs could stand to be both a little cleaner, less cluttered, and a little more polished, with interesting shapes attached to them that don’t look like they were added with a copy & paste tool. I wonder if they ever had a life on paper; they look like the end result of someone spending a couple of long afternoons playing around with shapes on Lightwave until they had something they deemed “good ‘nuff.”

The comparison to a Gobots toy is kind of unfair to Gobots. One thing those toys were good at was moving mass around to turn a fairly clean vehicle into a robot, often to the detriment of the robot. That would be the opposite of what this thing does, which is basically hot glue some legs to the bottom of a stealth wing shape. Every Veritech design we’ve ever seen before finds a way of integrating all the necessary parts into both modes. If the designer of this mecha knew what he was doing, he’d have given this thing legs that blended neatly into the airframe, or at least looked like they belonged to the same machine. It really does look like someone took a model plane and the lower half of a Gundam model kit and just stuck ‘em together. Infuriatingly lazy.

Anonymous asked:

So, why do people exclusively blame HG for no Macross post Plus in the states again? I mean, they're part of the problem, but even if both BW and HG stopped acting like idiots about this, who in their right mind would license the shows? The money for licensing the all the music would be make the license undesirable, and the demand for it just isn't really there. People may want Macross, but it's hardly enought to make the license worth it. Does this make sense, or am I missing something?

Harmony Gold makes a great target. Like their contemporaries and successors — World Events Productions, Saban, Funimation, DIC — they’re a company that heavily localized Japanese animation for Western consumption, and thus got a lot of stick over the years for the “crimes” they inflicted upon the original Japanese animated programs. There’s an inclination from the outset to paint them as the bad guys for their efforts to sell Macross — in its artificially extended form as Robotech — in the States. As we moved from the late 1990s into the early 2000s they did little to shed that image by threatening U.S. anime retailers who imported Japanese Macross goods and, upon discovering that Big West was seeking to acquire a trademark on the name Macross in the U.S., filing for the trademark on the name Macross themselves in as many countries and on as many different kinds of products as they could think of. The fact that they then squandered a great deal of goodwill by creating a mediocre Robotech sequel, antagonizing some of their most hardcore fans on message boards like a pack of garden-variety trolls when called on that mediocrity, then firing the most passionate Robotech fan they had on staff just makes it all the easier to point the finger at them as the sole guilty party here. Give ‘em a long enough list of crimes, and suddenly you can blame them for everything that’s wrong. It helps that most folks just learning about this situation, and even a lot of folks who’ve been hanging around for a while, know nothing about who Big West is, what else they do, and what their role in the creation of Macross is. (Hint: it involves money, and pretty much only that.) When you’ve got a blank canvas, it’s pretty easy to paint it up as a hero. (Simplistic anime fan thinking: American company bad, Japanese company good.)

As much as I have little love for it, I think if a U.S. distributor went full court press on selling Macross Frontier to the U.S. market they’d genuinely make some money. (At least, if they managed to get it out within the next couple of years; it still looks current enough right now, but the clock is ticking. Then again, market it right and you might be able to make it evergreen — “Denied to U.S. fans for X number of years!!”) And while people talk about the expense of the music rights, Sentai Filmworks — the reanimated corpse of ADV Films — was able and willing to license both seasons of AKB0048, a sci-fi anime from Shoji Kawamori and his studio Satelight that’s all about a sci-fi-ed up version of an actual superstar Japanese idol group, AKB48. I can’t imagine the licensing on that show’s music was cheap, since I’m guessing it contains a lot of actual Japanese pop hits, and yet, like I said — they licensed two seasons, and I doubt it has anywhere near the potential return on investment of a Macross show. The music rights “problem” has a lovely ring of verisimilitude, but based on all these other anime shows that have wound up over here that are just as music-centric, I just don’t buy it.

Who’d want to license the post-Plus Macross shows? I could still see Funimation being interested in Frontier, though like I said above, with a new show in the planning stages I’m sure it’s looking less tempting by the month. On the other hand, I could definitely see Section 23/Sentai being way into the idea of licensing the whole stable of ‘em. These guys love long-running anime franchises. They licensed all of Gatchaman, including the modern reboot Gatchaman Crowds. They’ve happily snapped up modern Fist of the North Star and Golgo 13 shows. They thought licensing 1990s relic Ghost Sweeper Mikami was a good idea in 2010. I am absolutely positive that these are people who would happily give us a U.S. blu ray release of Macross 7 if they could conjure up a big enough sack of money to cut through all the red tape. Unfortunately, I have a bad feeling that a sack of money that large doesn’t actually exist in all the world. (Please, for the love of god, in the name of all that is holy, somebody prove me wrong on that count.)

Robotech Academy designs, week three (plus SDCC bullet points).

NOTE: Several designs were also shown at San Diego Comic-Con, but I’m waiting until we have non-photos-of-Powerpoint-slides copies of those pics before talking about them.

ALSO: Boy, it really doesn’t look like this is gonna happen, guys.

1. Well, this at least has a silhouette. It’s got vertically-oriented Macross booms at the front (with the multiple pointy bits from the Do You Remember Love version), giant knife-sword things attached to its rear thrusters (why?), and the big side thrusters from that first ship design right below the Academy emblem only without any of the virtual paint apps. Better than the first design, but the repurposed bit and the dumb sword attachments bring it down a lot for me.

2. Yikes. Those super-obvious legs hanging under the airframe are so ugly. This looks like a bad Transformers toy — no, not even a Transformers toy, one of those off-brand psuedo-Transformers you see at Walgreens. I really hope that if this silly thing succeeds they’ll take some of these designs and go back to the drawing board on ‘em, because that really needs to be cleaned up. Change the shapes of the legs so the panels smooth out in Fighter mode. Have the obvious groin/hips recessed into the body in Fighter. Have the purplish color revealed in Guardian/Battloid and NOT shown in Fighter. And hey, what’s with the wing segments being slid forward?

This gets back to what I was saying about the unnamed first ship design — the silhouette is important, and on fighter craft even moreso because without some super-crazy thrust there’s difficulty suspending disbelief that this thing’ll fly if it’s got all that ugly junk underneath it. It doesn’t look aerodynamic, and worse — how many more times can I say it? — it just looks bad. Ugh.

3. NEW(ISH) PRODUCT! Available exclusively on Amazon, for $19.99, this September — the first half of ROBOTECH: THE MACROSS SAGA (original U.S. broadcast version) and the first half of SUPER DIMENSION FORTRESS MACROSS (subtitled in English). Nine episodes a disc, no restoration work (Tommy disingenuously remarked that “some fans want the show as they remember it, complete with dirt and scratches”), but if that’s a hole you have in your collection (and given the prices the original MACROSS goes for these days I’m sure lots of people do), might be well worth checking out.

4. NOT PICTURED, comics, manga, and artbook publisher UDON now has the rights to produce a series of ROBOTECH artbooks featuring art from MACROSS, SOUTHERN CROSS, and MOSPEADA — as well as, I assume, original pieces produced for ROBOTECH in the U.S. I would be terribly surprised if these things don’t feature a lot of Tommy Yune’s art from the last decade and a half or so. It was also announced that Udon will be handling the ROBOTECH ACADEMY artbook, assuming that goes forward.

Downer of a week to go with the downer of a San Diego panel. Worst of all, there was no comics announcement. I am way disappointed.

Anonymous asked:

Robotech: The Classic Collection Vol. 1?

Good news for anyone who’s been balking at the price of the AnimEigo and ADV Films Macross DVDs lately, assuming they don’t find some exciting way to screw up the subtitles. (I’ve seen firsthand how badly home video companies that don’t specialize in foreign material can screw up or at least do weird/off-putting stuff with subtitles.) Vol. 1 contains the first eighteen episodes and is out in late September — so not too far away. I’ve read from folks who’d know that it shouldn’t look bad even with nine episodes per disc, and the price is definitely right. I’d say it’s a good thing.

On the other hand, unless they’ve done some kind of restoration work on the original broadcast version of Robotech, if all you want is Robotech as it was from late ‘85 to 2001, the ADV Films discs are still bouncing around for pretty cheap. And given Tommy Yune’s cracks about some fans wanting it “with all the dirt and scratches,” which is a load of disingenuous shit — what we want is the original edit and sound effects — I’m thinking, no, the original version’s going to have no restoration work done, and this is going to be more or less identical to the ADV discs only packed a little tighter onto the discs.

Anonymous asked:

Do you think the people that hate on HG for blocking Macross would appreciate it if I said I felt similarly about whomever in Japan who decided to put Manga's dub on the Macross Plus Blu-ray and then decided to make it region 0 thus killing any incentive Manga uk would have to chase a license they would have to wait 6-12 months before releasing (and 'burn in' the English subs), when they could be spending their limited budget trying to get AoT or SAO?

First off, the Japanese blu ray for Macross Plus is totally out of print already. There’s plenty of incentive to go after the rights to release it on blu ray in English-speaking territories since trying to get your hands on the Japanese edition now is even more stupidly expensive than it was when it first came out.

Second, you’re not completely right about the dub. Because Manga’s dub for the fourth episode had a replacement music and sound effects track (made up of music from the first three episodes, though they did get “Information High” in there — probably off of the Sharon Apple single CD, I’d wager), Bandai eventually (in the early 2000s) commissioned their own English version of the last episode. Bryan Cranston was already on the sitcom Malcolm in the Middle by then, so he was replaced with David “Solid Snake” Hayter. Likewise, Richard Epcar (Guld) and Dan Woren (Yang) were replaced with dudes who sounded nothing like them. (The replacement actor for Yang sounded much closer to the goofy “nerd” voice the Japanese actor gave the character.) It’s reasonably watchable, if not great, but if you’re watching the series in sequence it totally undercuts the drama of seeing these characters’ conflict reach its peak. (Yes, I own the blu ray box. Yes, it’s very pretty. Yes, I was utterly baffled when I sat down to watch episode 4 and Cranston, Epcar, and Woren were suddenly missing. The not-so-great actress who plays Myung whose name I can’t remember? Still there, unsurprisingly. Wound up repurchasing the second DVD when I discovered this to my “horror.”) Point being, with the compromised English audio on the final episode of the Japanese blu ray, there is definitely room for a more complete English high definition version. I know I’d give it some thought.

Third, Harmony Gold does have a trademark on Macross in the U.K. Now, it doesn’t appear to extend as far as their trademarks in the U.S. — not to home video and television, so Manga U.K. might be in the clear there. But I wonder if, moreso than dealing with potential restrictions on the blu rays coming from Bandai Visual/Emotion, they don’t want to deal with the potential trouble that comes from the Big West-Harmony Gold/Tatsunoko tug of war when it comes to Macross rights outside of Japan. Given the limitations of the trademark in the U.K. it could be safe, or it could wind up opening a whole new can of worms. If I were them, yeah, I’d probably be sticking to Attack on Titan and Sword Art On-Line, too — and NOT for the reasons you cited.

Oh, hey, I forgot to do one of these this month. Ah well, better late than never.

Twenty-fiveyears ago this month, Eternity Comics/Malibu Graphics published the eighth issue of Robotech II: The Sentinels, by Tom MasonChris Ulm, and John Waltrip.

The SDF-3 makes its fold to Fantomaspace, dragging the shuttle containing Lynn Minmei and Janice Em along for the ride. Shortly thereafter, Admiral Lisa Hayes-Hunter is informed that there are incoming alien craft — craft which Breetai and Exedore warn her are commanded by the Invid. Meanwhile, on Tirol, a pair of Invid discover a mysterious object, while Tirolian scientists Rem and Cabell study the Invid Hellcat they’ve captured. Afterwards, Rem is subjected to a history lesson in Zor's study.

A fairly talky issue, all in all, which really flags the relaxed pace of the series at this point. Ten issues total at this point (including the two-issue Wedding Special) — twice as many as the last three mini-series we’ve gotten — and only just now the SDF-3 has arrived over Tirol. It really could have stood to be a little, let’s say, punchier.

Just in time to be wildly out of date in a little over 24 hours (the SDCC ROBOTECH panel is tomorrow evening), a NEW EPISODE of THIS ROBOTECH THING, in which I discuss the Robotech Academy project & Kickstarter at length, as well as show off some toys I was disappointed by and throw a sad, sorry little bone to Robotech/Voltron. (If you’ve been following my reactions to the book thus far, you probably know what I’m going to say.)

Enjoy, and be sure to please, please, please let me know your thoughts! Thanks!

Anonymous asked:

So, what's your opinion on the seemingly never ending wait for the UEEF Marines Sourcebook?

It’s just bonkers, isn’t it? This thing has been in the works for YEARS now. But considering the subject matter, the Expeditionary Force mission, the folks at Palladium had to have been doing a lot of heavy lifting in fleshing out the cosmos and the organization and everything. Heaven knows Shadow Chronicles did a remarkably poor job in creating a properly robust “to the stars” setting. This is one of the reasons I’m hoping Robotech Academy gets funded and put out there — the universe beyond Earth is SO poorly developed in the current source material. I wonder if the fact that we do have a project set out among the stars is one of the reasons for the most recent round of delays; hell, I wouldn’t be surprised if noncommittal wishy-washyness around what is essentially the Sentinels setting on Harmony Gold’s part is one of the reasons this thing has been kicked down the road for so long now. The latest date is October, and I sort of wonder if whether or not Academy gets funded will affect that in any way — say, if they’ll need to make some minor revisions and allusions to that project if it is going to go forward.

shawnmx asked:

io9 has already put Robotech Academy on a list of "5 failed Robotech sequels." I get their point but they could've at least waited to knock the thing down based on whether or not it actually succeeds.

Yeah, I saw that. For those who haven’t, it’s here —> http://io9.com/a-brief-history-of-5-failed-robotech-sequels-1608968158

The author, Rob Bricken, is the same guy who wrote the io9 “Why Robotech is the Greatest Love Story of the 20th Century” article, and I think at least one more Robotech-related piece, so the guy clearly has a soft spot for the show and keeps an eye out for what’s going on with it. Part of me thinks he’s just being realistic, but I think what he was really doing there was twisting the facts so that he could realistically have a list of five. After all, he includes The Odyssey of all things, which as he points out was never much more than an outline in Carl Macek’s mind. If he wanted a stronger list, he should’ve just played the old “Failed Robotech Projects” card and trotted out Crystal Dreams. (On some level this would also open things up to the largely failed Matchbox toy line, which would have allowed him to play the Women of Robotech ad, which is always good for a laugh.) Likewise, if he’s lamenting the fact that Robotech can’t get its shit together for a sequel, pointing out a Kickstarter in progress in this context is not what I call helping. Who wants to contribute to a project that’s already being characterized as “failed?”

Ugh, ugh, UGH.

(FYI, on a barely-related note, as of this writing the new episode is almost 70% uploaded. Just thought you guys would like to know.)

Anonymous asked:

Don't know if you saw this yet. New video on youtube. Tommy and Tony Oliver are interviewed. Tony Oliver is identified as "Admiral Rick Hunter." He says something to effect of..."As the SDF-3 departs, the best and brightest children of the REF enlist in the Robotech Academy. Something happens and they have to high jack the Academy via fold drive to follow the SDF-3, and all this happens in he Sentinels timeline. Damn, I know HG sucks, but I want to see this!

My sentiments exactly. The Greg Snegoff video, with a cameo by Oliver at the end, was even more promising, though it downplays the Academy-on-the-run/kids-take-over-to-pursue-the-baddies thing that I was kind of hoping to see based on both the earlier video and a synopsis I’d stumbled across. The Snegoff video makes it sound like they only fold the once and then have to find other means of traveling across the cosmos. Maybe the Protoculture situation isn’t quite as dire as he’s making it out to be and it can pull off a few more folds?

Anyway, the real trick is, even if the Kickstarter succeeds, A) can Harmony Gold tap into enough talent to make this a solidly good pilot/series? And B) if it’s good, will they be able to find a way to bring the pilot to series? There’s a ton of variables in play, and if one thing goes wrong, we’re all gonna feel like fools for getting our hopes up again. I’m trying not to get too excited; right now, just crossing my fingers and hoping they hit their magic number.